Defending the PT, Hayden Christensen & Jake Lloyd & the myth of ‘The PT is crap.’

(Reposted from a text response I wrote in agreement of officialhandmaiden and a-binary-sunset’s post regarding ‘bad’ Anakin Skywalker dialogue in AOTC.)

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People who criticize the writing in the PT can be SO out of touch of what the story even IS. (Soooo many fanboys who had been crafting all their headcanons since they were 10 years old in ‘83… Jeez, when I think of MY headcanons at age 10, I’m GLAD none of that came to pass… I think they should retcon themselves once in a while…)

I’ll never forget the moment it truly dropped for me just how true the representation of Anidala’s relationship was being told via dialogue. It happened when I had a crush. Ugh, it was like nails down the chalkboard. It didn’t matter how natural we tried to act, before long the conversation would get so multi-layered just like the ‘unconditional love’ scene on the transport to Naboo. Eeeek.

This is my greatest defense of not only GL’s writing, but Hayden Christensen as well. Peeps really don’t realize how calculated he was with his performance. He had to be super efficient in what he chose to do portraying a character FOUR people had already had a hand in. If you look for the influence, IT IS THERE. He cultivated the physical presence of Prowse, the intonation of Jones (particularly in ROTS,) the solemnity of Shaw & the blind openness of Lloyd. (He even managed to throw in Luke’s whinging and Leia’s sassy head-tilts!) And all while portraying a character under unusual circumstances.

It’s a shame HC never really got to explore Anakin at rest. He’s always stuck between a rock and a hard place. In AOTC, nearing the business end of his training, beginning to become aware of the shortcomings and difficulties of the Jedi, rebelling against his Master, falling in love with this older woman, being more and more seduced and groomed by Palpatine…

You can apply much of the following formula to many of the happenings in ROTS but in relation to Padme in AOTC it follows as such…

He meets up with Padme again, a person he has always idolized, and still does. This girl who has become a traveled woman, in control of her life, serving the people who need serving (all desires & lifestyles Anakin can relate to x10 because of the slavery and all that aha.)

Only this time he finds himself a man (almost, lol, she’ll take care of THAT laterz…) and not a little boy with no influence. He finds himself extremely attracted to her & senses that she feels the same. So compelled by this knowledge and an overwhelming drive to make them a reality, he courts her.

This older, more experienced woman who could have any cultured man to lay a finger on. How must that feel for a brash young man? Pretty daunting, I’d warrant. He knows that she knows, as a Jedi in training, he has no place for romantic relationships. She likely knows, or has at the very least made a correct educated guess that he hasn’t pursued a woman before. And yet he still goes for it. That’s pretty admirable.

What he doesn’t know (at first, at the very least,) was that she’s a work-a-holic hermit with no personal life, and yet older than him, with not all that much experience in relationships than he. She shows this in her inability to truly disengage and dissuade both Anakin and Clovis later on.

But here’s the kicker. People say that Hayden’s portrayal of Anakin was awkward and stilted and in-authentic…

Truth is, that’s not Hayden they’re seeing being awkward, it’s Anakin. Awkwardness is something we see often on screen. We see it in soaps, romantic comedies alike. But what we don’t often see is true, real sincere awkwardness like Hayden portrays in Anakin. I applaud him for that. <3

tl:dr, Hayden was so bad he was good, and so good he was bad. Think about that for a mo’.

But UNFORTUNATELY for us and the actors involved a whole bunch of ROTJ fanboys were still so hung over from their unfair and frankly callous dismissal of the inherent childhood innocence of Anakin as PORTRAYED BY A CHILD (Jake Lloyd,) that they went into AOTC with preconceived notions as to how ‘wrong’ GL was in crafting characters that BELONG TO HIM, that the unusual nature of the romantic plot of AOTC was perceived as a direct insult.

Another tl:dr, all the ROTJ fanboys were insulted that big bad Darth Vader had been the one not experienced with women rather than being all up in the girls grill like Han Solo. Further more, they were even more confused when the woman in this courtship was the one to reject the man. This was touched upon recently by another Anidala fan (search the tag.) Afterall, this is the gold bikini generation we’re dealing with here.

They feel ripped off, they feel like the character of Darth Vader and his cultural value as the big bad guy had been bastardized by the PT portrayal. Sounds to me like they were all just so caught up in Boba Fett that the important subtext that can be read in every. one. of. Vader’s. scenes. totally when over their heads. I dunno why. Oh. Maybe because they were TEN.

ANYWAY. The fact that GL, Jake Lloyd & Hayden Christensen get a bad rap for not meeting THEIR expectations really gives me the SHITS. And it means that SO MANY people who could love Star Wars so much more get turned away by this jacked up fandom simply because they get told ‘the PT is crap.’ Seriously, you can get that shit on TSHIRTS!

a-binary-sunset:

officialhandmaiden:

i know i don’t like sand line from aotc is seen has lame dialogue but honestly it sounds like something a teenage boy would say 

to put it in perspective one time a boy tried to flirt with me by asking me “so you like sweaters?” (i was wearing a sweater at the time)

yes it’s makes me cringe not becuase it’s necessarily bad dialogue (if you see it that way then fine) but to me it just feels like that awkward “i don’t know what to say around my crush” feeling a lot of people get ( i know i do)

I go back and forth between thinking Lucas could work on dialogue and agreeing with your point. It def. could be interpreted that way. A lot of teenage boys are that awkward when trying to think of pick-up lines. And I’m the same when I’m attracted to a guy. I stumble with my words and I’m awkward.

3rding this! People who criticize the writing in the PT can be SO out of touch of what the story even IS. (Soooo many fanboys who had been crafting all their headcanons since they were 10 years old in ‘83… Jeez, when I think of MY headcanons at age 10, I’m GLAD none of that came to pass… I think they should retcon themselves once in a while…)

I’ll never forget the moment it truly dropped for me just how true the representation of Anidala’s relationship was being told via dialogue. It happened when I had a crush. Ugh, it was like nails down the chalkboard. It didn’t matter how natural we tried to act, before long the conversation would get so multi-layered just like the ‘unconditional love’ scene on the transport to Naboo. Eeeek.

This is my greatest defense of not only GL’s writing, but Hayden Christensen as well. Peeps really don’t realize how calculated he was with his performance. He had to be super efficient in what he chose to do portraying a character FOUR people had already had a hand in. If you look for the influence, IT IS THERE. He cultivated the physical presence of Prowse, the intonation of Jones (particularly in ROTS,) the solemnity of Shaw & the blind openness of Lloyd. (He even managed to throw in Luke’s whinging and Leia’s sassy head-tilts!) And all while portraying a character under unusual circumstances.

It’s a shame HC never really got to explore Anakin at rest. He’s always stuck between a rock and a hard place. In AOTC, nearing the business end of his training, beginning to become aware of the shortcomings and difficulties of the Jedi, rebelling against his Master, falling in love with this older woman, being more and more seduced and groomed by Palpatine…

You can apply much of the following formula to many of the happenings in ROTS but in relation to Padme in AOTC it follows as such…

He meets up with Padme again, a person he has always idolized, and still does. This girl who has become a traveled woman, in control of her life, serving the people who need serving (all desires & lifestyles Anakin can relate to x10 because of the slavery and all that aha.)

Only this time he finds himself a man (almost, lol, she’ll take care of THAT laterz…) and not a little boy with no influence. He finds himself extremely attracted to her & senses that she feels the same. So compelled by this knowledge and an overwhelming drive to make them a reality, he courts her.

This older, more experienced woman who could have any cultured man to lay a finger on. How must that feel for a brash young man? Pretty daunting, I’d warrant. He knows that she knows, as a Jedi in training, he has no place for romantic relationships. She likely knows, or has at the very least made a correct educated guess that he hasn’t pursued a woman before. And yet he still goes for it. That’s pretty admirable.

What he doesn’t know (at first, at the very least,) was that she’s a work-a-holic hermit with no personal life, and yet older than him, with not all that much experience in relationships than he. She shows this in her inability to truly disengage and dissuade both Anakin and Clovis later on.

But here’s the kicker. People say that Hayden’s portrayal of Anakin was awkward and stilted and in-authentic…

Truth is, that’s not Hayden they’re seeing being awkward, it’s Anakin. Awkwardness is something we see often on screen. We see it in soaps, romantic comedies alike. But what we don’t often see is true, real sincere awkwardness like Hayden portrays in Anakin. I applaud him for that. <3

tl:dr, Hayden was so bad he was good, and so good he was bad. Think about that for a mo’.

But UNFORTUNATELY for us and the actors involved a whole bunch of ROTJ fanboys were still so hung over from their unfair and frankly callous dismissal of the inherent childhood innocence of Anakin as PORTRAYED BY A CHILD (Jake Lloyd,) that they went into AOTC with preconceived notions as to how ‘wrong’ GL was in crafting characters that BELONG TO HIM, that the unusual nature of the romantic plot of AOTC was perceived as a direct insult.

Another tl:dr, all the ROTJ fanboys were insulted that big bad Darth Vader had been the one not experienced with women rather than being all up in the girls grill like Han Solo. Further more, they were even more confused when the woman in this courtship was the one to reject the man. This was touched upon recently by another Anidala fan (search the tag.) Afterall, this is the gold bikini generation we’re dealing with here.

They feel ripped off, they feel like the character of Darth Vader and his cultural value as the big bad guy had been bastardized by the PT portrayal. Sounds to me like they were all just so caught up in Boba Fett that the important subtext that can be read in every. one. of. Vader’s. scenes. totally when over their heads. I dunno why. Oh. Maybe because they were TEN.

ANYWAY. The fact that GL, Jake Lloyd & Hayden Christensen get a bad rap for not meeting THEIR expectations really gives me the SHITS. And it means that SO MANY people who could love Star Wars so much more get turned away by this jacked up fandom simply because they get told ‘the PT is crap.’ Seriously, you can get that shit on TSHIRTS!

mizugachi:

★ star wars meme | 1/6 outfits:

Jedi apparel

ok so like, I’m into kimono and in kimono girls wear their ‘belts’ high and dudes wear their ‘belts’ low so when I look at Anakin I’m just like ‘omfg u so sezzy wit ur belt wai dun thar on ur snakehips hnnnnnng’ and then I look at Obi-wan and he just looks like he’s wearing his belt up around his nipples in comparison and it looks so girly sometimes.

I dun no ok, I just have a lot of orientations about Jedi clothes ok stop it.

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A professor may degrade you, but you will not feel degraded, a boss may crush you, but you will not be crushed, a corporate gladiator might vanquish you, but you will still triumph. How could any of them truly prevail in pulling you down? For you know that you are an object worthy of love. The rest is just packaging.

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thnk u bby dis jus wat need hur disday. <3

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